20 Questions for Bishop Fellay Regarding a Personal Prelature

The following is a list of questions which I pose to Bishop Fellay in regards to a potential Personal Prelature with Conciliar Rome.
These questions are posed in sincerity and with filial love for Holy Mother Church.
The responses are actual statements of His Excellency from a talk he gave in August of 2016.

1. Why is a personal prelature beneficial?

“All the sacraments the faithful will belong to this body will have the strict right to receive all the Sacraments from the priests of the Society. All the Sacraments, marriage included.”

2. But doesn't the Society already profess to have all of these things under Supplied Jurisdiction? I was married in a Society chapel. Do you say it is invalid?

[No answer available]

3. What will change if Rome gives the SSPX a personal prelature?

“At the head, a bishop. This bishop, chosen by the Pope, with three names which are presented by the Society and taken in the Society. This bishop will have authority above the priests, above the religious who want to be members, and above the faithful. This bishop will have the right to have schools, seminaries, ordinations, even to make NEW religious congregations and accept inside others who like to join. It is something like a superdiocese, autonomous from the local bishops.

No change for you [faithful] now, the only thing will be with the recognition that you are Catholics.”

4. What are the risks of a Personal Prelature?

“You can imagine that will cause a lot of problems with the local bishops, so we have to remain prudent there.

“[But] You cannot imagine anything better than what is offered there. And such a thing that you cannot think, ‘That’s a trap.’ It’s NOT a trap. And if somebody is offering something like that, it can be only because he wants good to us. He wants the good of Tradition. He wants Tradition to, we say, spread in the Church. It is impossible to think that such a thing could be invented by enemies. The enemies have many other ways to crush us down; but not that one.”

5. Why do you not, then, accept the Personal Prelature that is being offered?

“Because I want to be sure that this is true. I do not have the right to live in a dream, and so I have to check every step. "

6. But didn’t you say it cannot possibly be a trap? Why do you need to be sure it is true that it is not a trap if it is not possible that it is a trap?

“I myself am surprised. I myself say, ‘What’s going on?’”

7. What is the condition of accepting a Personal Prelature?

“That we do not change. We are what we are, and we remain as we are.”

8. But what about the condition that Archbishop Lefebvre laid out that the discussions must be placed at the doctrinal level and that Rome (Pope especially) must acknowledge that they profess what their predecessors have taught? What about the need that Conciliar Rome convert back to the true faith before we have any part with them?

[No answer available]

9. What about the quote from the Archbishop in 1989 that “It is a strict duty for every priest wanting to remain Catholic to separate himself from this Conciliar Church for as long as it does not rediscover the tradition of the Church and of the Catholic Faith?”

[No answer available]

10. Why has the SSPX not issued its own formal Dubia to Pope Francis? Or why do you not ask him to his face specifically what he believes? Wouldn’t that be prudent?

[No answer available]

11. What does it mean when you say that there are many in Rome supportive of the Society?

“They say to us, ‘You must resist. Why don’t you accept the proposal from Rome?’ Yes, and I say to them, ‘And tomorrow they will say we must say the New Mass.’ And they say to us, ‘No no you must resist!’

Is that the language you have ever heard in the Church? Bishops who start to say to us, ‘You must resist?’ Of course they are not all like that, but now they exist and they grow in number. So for me, it’s really not impossible that we are at a determining point at the history of Council Vatican II.”

12. How many Cardinals knowingly support the Society?

“We are NOT alone…even in the hierarchy of the Church. We are not alone.”

13. How many bishops knowingly support the Society?

“I do not give you the name, but I just want to make you aware of what is going on in the Church. We have a bishop who says, ‘We are many bishops.’ He says stay firm. I can really tell you, he is not the only one.”

14. Why, if these cardinals and bishops support the Society, do they not come forward and speak up? Is it not their responsibility to be courageous?

[No answer available]

15. Do the same cardinals and bishops who support the society also support Vatican II and believe JPII and John XXIII were saints? Or do they hold the exact same position as the Society in these matters?

[No answer available]

16. On April 27, 2015, an article appeared on the SSPX US web site stating that Msgr Pozzo’s actions speak louder than his words, specifically that “he pretends to hold out to us a smooth hand in the hope that we will believe that all is well in the Vatican, and that everyone is waiting for us with wide-open hearts and no second thoughts!” In essence, the article suggested that he cannot be trusted. Do you agree?

“The same Msgr Pozzo told me, ‘You should think to open a seminary in Italy.’ He says that now! He asks us to open a seminary in Italy…now! We don’t even have an agreement. That’s not a trap! It’s because they need priests! That’s why they say that.”

17. Do you not believe this could be because it would be easier for them to send in infiltrators into that seminary to try to slowly subvert and destroy the Society, and it would be easier for them to mentor those moles if they were closer in proximity to Rome? Or possibly that he is just trying to appease you to make you think he is your ally only to later stab you in the back?

“Such a thing that you cannot think, ‘That’s a trap.’ It’s NOT a trap…[they] have many other ways to crush us down; but not that one.”

18. Why would Rome offer a personal prelature to the Society, sine qua non? What do they stand to gain from this?

“Once again, the only answer I have is that this is happening because some people [who] still have a conscience are horrified by what is happening in the Church.”

19. So you believe that Pope Francis, Cardinal Müller and Archbishop Pozzo are all horrified by their own actions?

“It’s something…chaotic. Because you have the Pope who is not on the right side. That’s the big problem.”

20. But didn’t you say that if he is offering the Society such a deal that it can only be because he wants the good of Tradition?

“I have, for the time being, nothing. No decision. I cannot say it is happening tomorrow or in one year. I have no clue. I want to be in the reality.

But if we are recognized, I can tell you, that will be the start of a big fight. Not the struggle we are already in, but let’s say it would become even more intense.”

Understanding the SSPX Position, and the Crisis Since Vatican II (Salza, Voice of Catholic Tradition)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIMKrR7R_o

Ecumenism is The Enemy of Christ and His Church

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi5BSuX1h0I&feature=youtu.be

Link to YouTube if you cannot watch above.

Pope Francis and Kenneth Copeland Ministries - Declaration of Charismatic "Unity"

Cardinal Schönborn: "Pope Francis has already changed Church"

The following are excerpts taken from an article on National Catholic Registers.

The full article can be found here:

http://ncronline.org/news/global/cardinal-sch-nborn-pope-francis-has-already-changed-church

Original in black. My comments in red.

Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, standing, talks with Pope Francis during a meeting with Austrian bishops at the Vatican Jan. 30. (CNS/Reuters/L'Osservatore Romano)

"It is fascinating to see how Pope Francis is encouraging, reviving and renewing the church. Our meeting with him was an excellent lesson on how to live the Gospel today," Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna said after a 90-minute audience with the pope during the Austrian bishops' "ad limina" visit to the Vatican in the last week of January.

The Austrian bishops took the results of the recent Vatican questionnaire to Rome with them. Responses showed that 95 percent of those who had filled out the questionnaire in Austria were in favor of allowing divorced and remarried Catholics to receive the sacraments.

>> Confirms that at least 95% of Austrians completing the survey do not understand Catholic morality. Sts. John Fisher and Thomas More did not lose their heads to Henry VIII for refusing to support his divorce and remarriage for no reason. It is not possible to approve divorce and remarriage.

“7 For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife. 8 And they two shall be in one flesh. Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” (Mark 10, also Matthew 19)

“18 Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her that is put away from her husband, committeth adultery.” (Luke 16)

Annulments (recognition of an absence of a valid marriage in the first place) are another story. But it is clear from the 2000 year teaching Magisterium that once a man and a woman are validly joined in the sacrament of Holy Matrimony, and when that marriage is consummated, they are one flesh which cannot be divided, especially not by some secular tribunal.

“Til death do us part” they pledge in their vows.

“39 A woman is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband die, she is at liberty” (1 Corinthians 7)

So just because they may in the eyes of the state be divorced and remarried to another person, this does not mean they are fit to go receive Holy Communion…for they are living in a state of persistent and pertinacious adultery and fornication. This, obviously, means they are living outside of a state of sanctifying grace and therefore are entirely unfit for receiving the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

“27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 11)

What is most striking and indeed both frightening and sorrowful is that it’s not just Austrians who are unfamiliar with infallible Church morality, it is also the Austrian priests, bishops and cardinals…AND THE POPE HIMSELF!

But it gets worse…

Francis spoke of his experiences in Latin America, where the situation of marriage and the family was, to a certain extent, "far more dramatic" than in Europe, Schönborn said. It is important to realize that today many couples live together without getting married and have children, then later marry in a registry office, with some opting for a church marriage, the pope explained. The church must take this way of life seriously and accompany the couples on their way, Francis underlined. His basic message was "Don't judge, but look closely and listen very carefully," Schönborn said.

>> Okay. Now cue the likes of neo-cons such as EWTN, Mark Shea, et al…or of the pseudo-trads like Michael Voris trying to defend the Pope's comments as taken out of context or not properly understood. No. They are not out of context. It is not a poor translation. This is, and I write this with the UTMOST inner sorrow, how our present Pope thinks and how our present Pope speaks. And Cardinal Schönborn thinks it’s just fantastic. So does Cardinal Dolan, Cardinal O’Malley, Cardinal Tauron…and Hindus, and Buddhists, and Jews, and liberals, and Time Magazine, and even atheists.

It is the man of the birth name Jorge Bergoglio to a “T.” He used the same exact language as underlined above in his book Conversations with Jorge Bergoglio speaking about priests who “fall in love.”

Question: “There are times when a priest does fall in love and must reassess his vocation and his life. Then he must go to the bishop and tell him, ‘I’ve made up my mind… I didn’t know I was going to feel something so beautiful… I truly love this woman’, and he asks to leave the priesthood. And what do you do in these cases?”

Answer (Bergoglio): “I stay with him; I accompany him on his spiritual journey. If he is sure of his decision, I even help him find work… We request what is called ‘dispensation,’ permission from Rome, and then he would be allowed to receive the sacrament of marriage.”

This ties in closely to his much publicized comments a few months back when questioned on an airplane about homosexuals when he responded, again as afore-underlined, “Who am I to judge?”

It goes on…

In several interviews shortly before leaving Vienna, Schönborn advocated a more rational, down-to-earth approach toward family relationships. "For the most part, the church approaches the [family] issue unhistorically," he said. "People have always lived together in various ways. And today, we in the church tacitly live with the fact that the majority of our young people, including those with close ties to the Catholic church, quite naturally live together. The simple fact is that the environment has changed."

>> Okay. This paragraph is preposterous on numerous levels. Cardinal Schönborn is first calling for a “more rational” approach toward family relationships. This implicitly means that, up until now, the Church has – according to him – been irrationally dealing with family relationships. How outrageous!

Second, he is CLEARLY spouting the very definition of Modernism by stating that  because times change and people live in new ways, the Church needs to recognize and respect that, even if it means people living together in sin.

“80. The Roman Pontiff can, and ought to, reconcile himself, and come to terms with progress, liberalism and modern civilization. – CONDEMNED” (Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of Errors, 1964)

Schönborn "in no way" wanted to advocate changing canon law but merely to show how difficult it was to bring the ideal family model into line with reality. "The decisive point is not to condemn the way most people actually live together, but to ask, 'How do we cope with failure?' " he said.

>> He doesn’t want to change canon law, because he knows he can’t do that. He just wants to turn a blind eye to it and to disregard it.

Also, again with the “don’t judge, don’t condemn” theology. Look, I understand being sensitive, patient and tender to those who are ignorant of truth and blind to eternal realities. But there is also a grave responsibility of those in positions of ecclesiastical authority to defend truth and to condemn, yes CONDEMN error.

“Let your apostolic zeal shine with benign charity. If it be necessary -- and it is everyone's duty -- to fight error and repel vice, the soul of the priest must be ever open to compassion. Error must be fought with all our might, but the brother who errs must be loved intensely and brought to salvation…he who to please men would gloss over their evil inclinations or be indulgent about their incorrect ways of thinking or acting, thereby prejudicing Christian teaching and integrity of morals, would be betraying his ministry…

“It must be added that the priest who is the "salt of the earth" and "the light of the world" must labor mightily for the defense of the Faith by preaching the Gospel and confuting the doctrinal errors opposed to it which are disseminated today among the people by every possible means. But these errors cannot be efficaciously fought if the unassailable principles of Catholic philosophy and theology are not thoroughly known.” (Pope Pius XII, Menti Nostrae - Thoughts for the Clergy of the World, 1950)

Why, why is it that I, a 28 year old lay person, know this basic truth of the faith, but an entire country of ordained and consecrated men and the Sovereign Pontiff do not? They do know. But they are choosing to disobey, and they are “betraying their ministry” and solidifying themselves amongst the ranks of Judas as betrayers of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Austrian bishops also discussed with the pope the Austrian Priests' Initiative, which has called for the ordination of married men and women, and their "Call to Disobedience," Schönborn said. The pope advised them that the most important thing for bishops is always to be in close contact with their priests, the cardinal said.

>> For more information on this, please go to the following two links:

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2009/02/austrian-bishops-in-open-revolt.html

http://mundabor.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/austria-313-priests-and-deacons-in-open-heretical-revolt-no-one-is-suspended/

Prepare to be astounded.

And then take a moment to think. The trailer to the documentary of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre’s life asks the following question:

“How did this bishop, a former missionary in Gabon, Archbishop of Dakar, Apostolic Delegate for all of French-speaking Africa, Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers get to this point [branded as a ‘rebel’ and ‘excommunicated’]?”

And how is it that these 313 clergy in open revolt against the Church and against Almighty God do NOT find themselves even being discouraged from behaving this way!? The Pope is silent on the matter, and just says it’s important that the bishops be “close to their priests.”

Schönborn said he was convinced that far-reaching church reform was on the way, "but it will not be achieved through big words and programs but through people like Pope Francis." One could already see that the pope has become a role model, Schönborn said. "The atmosphere is changing and his behavior is making itself felt," he said. What impressed him most about the pope was his charisma. "You can feel his inner devotion to God from which his compassion, his warmth and his infectious sense of humor emanates," the cardinal said.

“26 Woe to you when men shall bless you: for according to these things did their fathers to the false prophets.” (Luke 6)

“24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.” (Matthew 24)

“23. Roman pontiffs and ecumenical councils have wandered outside the limits of their powers, have usurped the rights of princes, and have even erred in defining matters of faith and morals – CONDEMNED” (Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of Errors, 1864)

Our Lady of Good Success, PRAY FOR US!

Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran Pays Homage to Hindu Idol

1 Cor. 10:20 - But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.


Deut. 32:17 - They sacrificed to devils and not to God: to gods whom they knew not: that were newly come up, whom their fathers worshiped not.

Ps 95:5 - For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils: but the Lord made the heavens.

Jer. 10:20-21 - My tabernacle is laid waste, all my cords are broken: my children are gone out from me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.
Because the pastors have done foolishly, and have not sought the Lord: therefore have they not understood, and all their flock is scattered.

Exod. 34:15-17 - Make no covenant with the men of those countries lest, when they have committed fornication with their gods, and have adored their idols, some one call thee to eat of the things sacrificed.
Neither shalt thou take of their daughters a wife for thy son, lest after they themselves have committed fornication, they make thy sons also to commit fornication with their gods.
Thou shalt not make to thyself any molten gods.

Wisd. 13:10 - But unhappy are they, and their hope is among the dead, who have called gods the works of the hands of men, gold and silver, the inventions of art, and the resemblances of beasts, or an unprofitable stone the work of an ancient hand.

St. Thomas Aquinas:
"The cause of idolatry is twofold: dispositive on the part of man; consummative on the part of the demons.

"Men were led to idolatry first by disordered affections, inasmuch as they bestowed divine honours upon someone whom they loved or venerated beyond measure. This cause is indicated in Wisdom 14:15: 'For a father being afflicted by bitter grief, made to himself the image of his son who was quickly taken away; and him who then had died as a man, he began now to worship as a god . . . ', and 14:21: 'Men serving either their affection or their king, gave the incommunicable name to stones and wood'.

"Second: By their natural love for artistic representations: uncultured men, seeing statues cunningly reproducing the figure of man, worshipped them as gods. Hence we read in Wisdom 13:11 sq., 'An artist, a carpenter has cut down a tree proper for his use in the wood . . . . . . and by the skill of his art fashioneth it and maketh it like the image of a man . . . . . and then maketh prayers to it, inquiring concerning his substance and his children or his marriage'.

"Third: By their ignorance of the true God: man, not considering the excellence of God, attributed divine worship to certain creatures excelling in beauty or virtue: Wisdom 13:1-2:' . . . . . neither by attending to the works have [men] acknowledged who was the workman, but have imagined either the fire, or the wind, or the swift air, or the circle of the stars, or the great water, or the sun and moon, to be the gods that rule the world'.


"The consummative cause of idolatry was the influence of the demons who offered themselves to the worship of erring men, giving answers from idols or doing things which to men seemed marvelous, whence the Psalmist says (Psalm 95:5): 'All the gods of the gentiles are devils'" (Summa II-II, Q. xciv, a. 4)


http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A558-Tauran.htm